Building Brave Spaces to Innovate and Belong | Andrea Silverstone and Carrie McManus
Update: 2025-07-02
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Content Note: This episode includes mention of sexual abuse. Please listen with care.
"Belonging is what makes vulnerability survivable."
In this episode of Hearth 2 Heart, Gayathri Shukla sits down with Andrea Silverstone and Carrie McManus from Sagesse to explore the deep connection between belonging and innovation, drawing lessons from their latest book, Innovation at the Back of the Bus.
Through personal stories, they explore how feelings of worthiness - or the the lack of it - impact our ability to create, collaborate, and innovate for systemic change. Drawing from their new book Innovation at the Back of the Bus, they discuss how vulnerability is key to both belonging and innovation, wherein fun and failure coexist on the path to change.
Resources:
"Belonging is what makes vulnerability survivable."
In this episode of Hearth 2 Heart, Gayathri Shukla sits down with Andrea Silverstone and Carrie McManus from Sagesse to explore the deep connection between belonging and innovation, drawing lessons from their latest book, Innovation at the Back of the Bus.
Through personal stories, they explore how feelings of worthiness - or the the lack of it - impact our ability to create, collaborate, and innovate for systemic change. Drawing from their new book Innovation at the Back of the Bus, they discuss how vulnerability is key to both belonging and innovation, wherein fun and failure coexist on the path to change.
Resources:
- Innovation at the Back of the Bus book
- www.sagesse.org
- www.campfirekinship.com
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